{"id":12872,"date":"2025-12-13T22:30:37","date_gmt":"2025-12-13T21:30:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paddys.de\/?p=12872"},"modified":"2025-12-20T12:33:23","modified_gmt":"2025-12-20T11:33:23","slug":"die-profis-haben-das-wort","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/die-profis-haben-das-wort\/","title":{"rendered":"The professionals have their say"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Reading time<\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 10<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">Minutes<\/span><\/span>\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">The voices of experts, journalists and activists \u2013 The professionals have their say (Part 4)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"6_Experteninterview_Martin_Kaiser_Greenpeace_%E2%80%93_%E2%80%9EWie_lief_die_COP30%E2%80%9C\"><\/span>6. Expert interview: Martin Kaiser (Greenpeace) \u2013 \u201eHow did COP30 go?\u201c<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Greenpeace director Martin Kaiser gave a detailed interview on COP30 and summarised the situation precisely: the climate conference was a minimal compromise that did not solve the fundamental problems.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">Expert interview: How did COP30 go? \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw <\/a><\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12893\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-13-at-22-12-25-133-Experteninterview-Wie-lief-die-COP30-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Screenshot<strong>YouTube appearance \u201eExpert interview: How did COP30 go?\u201c<\/strong>. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw<\/a> accessed on 12 December 2025. <strong>Editorial use<\/strong>.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-2\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\"> screenshot<strong>YouTube appearance \u201eExpert interview: How did COP30 go?\u201c<\/strong>. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw<\/a> accessed on 12 December 2025. <strong>Editorial use<\/strong>. \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw <\/a><\/span>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kaiser's key messages:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The conference ended without a binding plan to phase out fossil fuels.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Climate finance fell significantly short of what was needed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Countries of the Global South leave the conference feeling betrayed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Fossil fuel countries have once again made full use of their veto power<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A system that relies on unanimity cannot prevail against a few blockers.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Greenpeace and other NGOs ran massive pressure campaigns during the conference, but were unable to resolve the structural problems.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"562\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-1024x562.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-1024x562.webp 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-300x165.webp 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-768x421.webp 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-1536x842.webp 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-2048x1123.webp 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Abneigung-mit-Daumen-nach-unten-zeigen-18x10.webp 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo: Man with angry face, showing dislike with thumbs down. \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.istockphoto.com\/de\/portfolio\/AaronAmat?mediatype=photography\">AaronAmat<\/a> \/ iStock by GettyImages<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"7_Tagesthemen-Interview_mit_Maja_Gopel_Transformationsforscherin\"><\/span>7. Tagesthemen interview with Maja G\u00f6pel (transformation researcher)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Maja G\u00f6pel is a leading transformation researcher and was interviewed at COP30.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-3\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\">COP: Transformation researcher G\u00f6pel calls for more climate protection | tagesthemen interview \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY<\/a> <\/span>.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12906\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-55-33-535-COP-Transformationsforscherin-Goepel-fordert-mehr-Klimaschutz-tagesthemen-Interview-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Screenshot YouTube appearance \u201eCOP: Transformation researcher G\u00f6pel calls for more climate protection | tagesthemen interview\u201c. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY <\/a>Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"4\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-4\">4<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-4\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"4\"> YouTube appearance \u201eCOP: Transformation researcher G\u00f6pel calls for more climate protection | tagesthemen interview\u201c. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY <\/a>Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY<\/a> <\/span>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Maja's assessment:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The climate is having a particularly difficult time in Germany because CO\u2082 is invisible, cause and effect are extremely delayed, and we believe that it will not affect us.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Furthermore, disinformation is clearly being spread by the powerful fossil fuel lobby.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The extent to which Friedrich Merz is now supposed to be the climate chancellor is relatively new to her and seems unfounded.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We Germans are not good at transformation when disaster has not yet struck us.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The COP is a negotiation system that leads to \u201eminimal compromises\u201c.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Real transformation does not happen at international conferences, but through pressure from civil society, elections and market changes.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The COP is important for determining who is still participating, especially individual countries and cities.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Individual countries or coalitions must take the lead \u2013 the consensus principle does not work<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>It is shameful that the wealthiest players are simply opting out.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Social cohesion is essential for a just climate transition<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Without social compensation, there will be no majority support for climate protection.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>G\u00f6pels\u201e core statement: \u201cWe must think locally and act globally \u2013 not the other way around.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-1024x683.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12917\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-1536x1024.webp 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-2048x1366.webp 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Es-gibt-keinen-Planeten-B-18x12.webp 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo: Activist holds a sign with the message to humanity, \u201eThere is no planet B.\u201c. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.istockphoto.com\/de\/portfolio\/Amparo-Garcia?mediatype=photography\">Mparo Garcia <\/a>&nbsp;\/ iStock by GettyImages<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"8_ARD-Deutschlandtrend_%E2%80%93_%E2%80%9EWie_wichtig_ist_den_Menschen_in_Deutschland_das_Klima%E2%80%9C\"><\/span>8. ARD Germany Trend \u2013 \u201eHow important is climate change to people in Germany?\u201c<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This post was a survey on climate awareness.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"5\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-5\">5<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-5\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"5\">ARD Germany Trend: How important is climate change to people in Germany? \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM<\/a> <\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-14-at-13-53-55-138-ARD-Deutschlandtrend-Wie-wichtig-ist-den-Menschen-in-Deutschland-das-Klima-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Screenshot from tagesschau YouTube appearance \u201cARD-Deutschlandtrend: How important is climate change to people in Germany?\u201c. Available online at<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM <\/a>Retrieved on 14 December 2025. Editorial use.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"6\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-6\">6<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-6\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"6\"> Tagesschau YouTube appearance \u201cARD Deutschlandtrend: How important is climate change to people in Germany?\u201c Available online at<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM <\/a>Retrieved on 12 December 2025. Editorial use.\ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM <\/a><\/span>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Results:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>President Lula announces a \u00a3125 billion forest protection fund, the proceeds of which will be used to \u201ecompensate\u201c nations that preserve primary forests (rainforests, virgin forests). <strong><em>not <\/em><\/strong>Deforest. Forests must be viewed as an economic factor, their ecosystem services recognised and incorporated into GDP. A nice idea, but unfortunately only 5 billion has been raised, which I find somewhat indicative of international climate protection efforts.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>It's no use, I still have to <strong>comment <\/strong>get rid of. And it doesn't help, my comment just became too much for in between. You'll find it here starting tomorrow:<a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/\"> Lula's Rainforest Fund \u2013 personal commentary<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Around 50,000 participants from over 190 countries<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Even before the event begins, numerous locals demonstrate for the protection of their living conditions, such as the preservation of their forest habitat.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Christiane Averbeck from the Climate Alliance Germany association comments that Merz's appearance is a good sign, but that a very specific climate stimulus package must follow as a matter of urgency.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In an interview, Environment Minister Schneider emphasises the importance of sticking to existing climate targets.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Climate protection is supported when it does not \u201ehurt\u201c<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>This highlights the central dilemma: in the eyes of many concerned people, genuine transformation requires sacrifices \u2013 but the population has little appetite for these if they are not distributed fairly.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Implication:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This highlights why social balance is so important. Without genuine fairness and security, the population will block climate protection measures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"647\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-1024x647.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12989\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-1024x647.webp 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-300x190.webp 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-768x485.webp 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-1536x971.webp 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-2048x1294.webp 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Lulas-Regenwald-Fond-\u2013-persoenlicher-Kommentar-Banner-18x12.webp 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Banner reading tip \u201e<strong>Lula's Rainforest Fund \u2013 personal commentary<\/strong>\u201e<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"7\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-7\">7<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-7\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"7\"> Lula's Rainforest Fund \u2013 personal commentary \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/\">https:\/\/paddys.de\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/<\/a> &nbsp;<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"9_ARD-Sendung_%E2%80%9EKlimaZeit%E2%80%9C_Tagesschau_21112025\"><\/span>9. ARD programme \u201eKlimaZeit\u201c (Tagesschau, 21 November 2025)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On 21 November 2025, the Tagesschau programme \u201eKlimaZeit\u201c reported on two key topics: firstly, illegal gold mining in the Amazon and its impact on the climate, and secondly, COP30 itself.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"8\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-8\">8<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-8\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"8\">Climate Time 7:30 p.m., 21 November 2025 | Daily News \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk<\/a> <\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13001\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-23-at-22-21-41-517-KlimaZeit-19-30-Uhr-21.11.2025-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&nbsp;<br>Image: Screenshot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube appearance \u201cKlimaZeit 7:30 p.m., 21 November 2025 | Tagesschau: Illegal gold mining in the Amazon\u201c. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk<\/a> Retrieved on 23 November 2025. Editorial use.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"9\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-9\">9<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-9\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"9\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube appearance \u201cKlimaZeit 7:30 p.m., 21 November 2025 | Tagesschau\u201c. Available online at  accessed on 23 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk<\/a> <\/span>.<br><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Report on illegal gold mining:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Illegal gold mining is rampant in the Amazon \u2013 with disastrous consequences for the ecosystem.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mercury use and cyanide poison the soil and waterways, rivers overheat, fish die.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Indigenous communities are the ones who suffer most. They use drones to document the deforested rainforest, water basins, excavators and gold panning facilities. \u201eThis is what it looks like everywhere here.\u201c<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>More than two million hectares of forest have been cleared for illegal and legal gold mining.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Just 10 to 20 kilograms of gold are extracted from 1,500 to 2,000 tonnes of rock (and countless animals whose habitat disappears as a result).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Poverty drives indigenous people to work in the gold mines.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Illegal gold mining is also a sign of the absence of state control.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-1024x682.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13013\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-1024x682.webp 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-768x511.webp 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-1536x1023.webp 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-2048x1364.webp 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jamari-National-Forest-18x12.webp 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&nbsp;Photo: Illegal deforestation of the Amazon rainforest due to gold mining, aerial view in Jamari National Forest in Rondonia, Brazil. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.istockphoto.com\/de\/portfolio\/Paralaxis?mediatype=photography\">Paralaxis<\/a> \/ iStock by GettyImages<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Link to COP30:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The programme draws a direct line: while Brazil talks about protecting the Amazon at COP30, the worst environmental crimes are happening on the ground. This highlights the discrepancy between words and actions \u2013 not only in international agreements, but also at the national level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Ahead of the COP, indigenous peoples and civil society are protesting more than ever before.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>This COP is no longer about theories, but about implementing climate protection.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>No agreement has been reached so far; not even Germany would have signed the proposals put forward thus far.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"10_ZDF_heute_journal_Podcast_%E2%80%93_%E2%80%9ECOP30_%E2%80%93_was_hats_gebracht%E2%80%9C_Winnie_Heesch_vor_Ort\"><\/span>10. ZDF heute journal podcast \u2013 \u201eCOP30 \u2013 what did it achieve?\u201c (Winnie Heesch on site)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ZDF correspondent Winnie Heesch was on site throughout COP30 in Bel\u00e9m and reports in detail in the \u201eheute journal\u201c podcast.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"10\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-10\">10<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-10\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"10\">COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | heute journal \u2013 the podcast \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13019\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-17-19-26-533-COP30-\u2013-was-hats-gebracht-heute-journal-der-Podcast-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Screenshot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@ZDFheute\">ZDF Today News<\/a> YouTube presence\u201e<strong>COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | \u201eheute journal \u2013 the podcast\u201c<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> accessed on 23 November 2025. <em>Editorial use.<\/em><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"11\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-11\">11<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-11\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"11\"> YouTube <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@ZDFheute\">ZDF Today News<\/a> Appearance\u201e<strong>COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | \u201eheute journal \u2013 the podcast\u201c<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> &nbsp;accessed on 23 November 2025. <em>Editorial use.<\/em> \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/span>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>News legend Gundula Gause explains<\/strong><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"12\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-12\">12<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-12\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"12\">COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | heute journal \u2013 the podcast \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/span>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>\u201eSince 1995, the World Climate Conference has been held every year at different locations. The official name of the event is COP, short for Conference of the Parties, i.e. the conference of the parties to the UN Framework Convention.\u201c<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201eThe first climate conferences focused on industrialised countries. Most of them committed themselves to reducing their CO\u2082 emissions for the first time in 1997 in the Kyoto Protocol.\u201c<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201eIn 2015, there was a breakthrough in Paris. Industrialised countries, as well as developing and emerging countries, agreed that the global temperature increase should be limited to 1.5\u00b0 Celsius if possible, but in any case well below 2\u00b0 compared to the pre-industrial era.\u201c<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>At the conference itself:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Heesch defends the venue. You can get on a boat here and in half an hour you're in the rainforest, where you can see for yourself the extent of the destruction.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>Personal comment: How many of the 50,000 participants went to see the deforested rainforest like our Chancellor did? None. Our Chancellor Friedrich Merz and his entourage flew home after less than 24 hours.<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The courtrooms were filled with extreme tension.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The process collapsed several times because countries could not agree.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela and other OPEC countries consistently blocked any progress on the issue of fossil fuels.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Countries such as Colombia, Fiji and other vulnerable nations (island states) fought desperately for stronger measures \u2013 but failed against the blockade.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Emotional dimension:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Christian Siewers (presenter of the \u201eheute Journal\u201c news programme) begins by drawing a direct connection to reality, recalling the extreme weather conditions in Valencia, which caused unimaginable damage and claimed several hundred lives.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>And Christian recalls \u201ethe South Sea islands that are sinking\u201c.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Host Helene Reiner paints a picture of melting Alps on the one hand and deforested Amazon rainforest on the other.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Heesch reports on the despair among the delegations from the Global South<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Many delegates feel that their countries are literally drowning while the international community agrees on minimal compromises.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A delegate from the Marshall Islands said, \u201eThis is not a final document. It is a death certificate.\u201c<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>On Friedrich Merz:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Heesch reports critically on Merz's appearance. The damage he has caused is enormous.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>He was only there briefly and made strange comments about the venue.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Actually, nothing. He arrived in the dark, saw the hotel and the venue, and left.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Rumour has it that Merz wanted to finally say something nice about Germany after his backfired debate on the cityscape.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>His financial commitment was criticised as being too weak.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>He did not show the commitment one would expect from a climate chancellor.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Find out how the rest of the world perceived and remembered Germany's performance in this exciting article: <a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/des-deutschen-kanzlers-wellen-schlugen-hoch\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"12746\">The German chancellor's waves beat high<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Structural problems:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Heesch draws a clear conclusion: the COP system cannot work as long as countries have the right of veto.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>195 countries must agree unanimously \u2013 a system that is predestined for deadlock<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Alternative formats are gaining in importance<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"670\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-1024x670.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13044\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-1024x670.webp 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-300x196.webp 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-768x502.webp 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-1536x1005.webp 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch-18x12.webp 18w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Banner-Des-deutschen-Kanzlers-Wellen-schlugen-hoch.webp 2009w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Banner reading tip <a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/des-deutschen-kanzlers-wellen-schlugen-hoch\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"12746\">\u201e<strong>The German chancellor's waves beat high<\/strong><\/a>\u201e<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"11_ARD-Sendung_%E2%80%9EWeltklimakonferenz_%E2%80%93_Was_hat_das_mit_mir_zu_tun%E2%80%9C_Diskussionssendung\"><\/span>11. ARD programme \u201eWorld Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me?\u201c (discussion programme)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This in-depth 90-minute discussion programme on ARD dealt with the consequences of COP30 for everyone.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"13\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-13\">13<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-13\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"13\">World Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me? | mitreden.ard.de \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> <\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-1024x844.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13050\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-1024x844.png 1024w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-768x633.png 768w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-1536x1266.png 1536w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-2048x1687.png 2048w, https:\/\/paddys.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-19-10-10-535-Weltklimakonferenz-Was-hat-das-mit-mir-zu-tun-mitreden.ard_.de-YouTube-15x12.png 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Image: Screenshot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube presence\u201e<strong>World Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me? | mitreden.ard.de<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> &nbsp;Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote\" data-mfn=\"14\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-14\">14<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000000f2c0000000000000000_12872-14\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"14\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube presence\u201e<strong>World Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me? | mitreden.ard.de<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> &nbsp;Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> <\/span>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Discussion participants and their positions:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Climate scientists explain that the measures taken so far are completely inadequate.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dr Michael Bilharz, Federal Environment Agency, lives climate-neutrally<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Activists from the Fridays for Future movement criticise the lack of urgency<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Janna Hoppmann, climate psychologist (will be joining us briefly from Bel\u00e9m)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Business representatives argue on the basis of costs \u2013 leading to sharp criticism<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>People affected in climate-vulnerable countries report fears for their livelihoods<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Interested members of the public via telephone and YouTube chat or comment function<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Claudia Reiser, ARD Climate Competence Centre<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Key points of discussion:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>justice<\/strong>Who pays for the climate crisis? Who benefits? Who suffers?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>speed<\/strong>Are the measures that have been decided upon fast enough? (Spoiler: No)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>bonding<\/strong>Why are international agreements not binding? (Answer: Sovereignty of states)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>alternatives<\/strong>What works instead of COP?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Key findings:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The very first caller sums up one of the biggest levers: We Germans emit around 10.4 tonnes of CO2 per year, and switching to a vegan diet could save up to one tonne of CO2 per capita per year, not even taking into account the positive effects in terms of land use.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Using the example of the sluggish ramp-up of hydrogen production, Claudia Reiser from the ARD Climate Competence Centre describes a problem that is almost symptomatic of climate protection measures: \u201eThe whole hydrogen ramp-up is not progressing. It's not working at the moment because it's such a chicken-and-egg problem. Those who would produce hydrogen say, \u201eYes, we lack buyers because green hydrogen is simply still far too expensive at the moment. And those who want to work with it say: \u201cWell, but there isn't any, it's not available, we don't have the hydrogen core network, etc.\u201c In this respect, everything has to mesh together, and that requires a certain amount of (...) support, financing, and even subsidies (...)'<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A participant from Bangladesh reports that her country is losing millions due to flooding \u2013 while the world debates millions in aid.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A worker from the coal industry makes it clear: there can be no just transition without financial security for workers.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Young people are frustrated \u2013 they see politicians making promises that are not kept.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"modern-footnotes-list-heading modern-footnotes-list-heading--hide-for-print\">List of sources<\/h3><ul class=\"modern-footnotes-list modern-footnotes-list--hide-for-print\"><li><span>1<\/span><div>Expert interview: How did COP30 go? \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw <\/a><\/div><\/li><li><span>2<\/span><div> screenshot<strong>YouTube appearance \u201eExpert interview: How did COP30 go?\u201c<\/strong>. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw<\/a> accessed on 12 December 2025. <strong>Editorial use<\/strong>. \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NTq2IUhf4Gw <\/a><\/div><\/li><li><span>3<\/span><div>COP: Transformation researcher G\u00f6pel calls for more climate protection | tagesthemen interview \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>4<\/span><div> YouTube appearance \u201eCOP: Transformation researcher G\u00f6pel calls for more climate protection | tagesthemen interview\u201c. Available online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY <\/a>Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/jwbUjDk0MqY<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>5<\/span><div>ARD Germany Trend: How important is climate change to people in Germany? \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>6<\/span><div> Tagesschau YouTube appearance \u201cARD Deutschlandtrend: How important is climate change to people in Germany?\u201c Available online at<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM <\/a>Retrieved on 12 December 2025. Editorial use.\ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/xp8kpj-RsYM <\/a><\/div><\/li><li><span>7<\/span><div> Lula's Rainforest Fund \u2013 personal commentary \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/paddys.de\/en\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/\">https:\/\/paddys.de\/lulas-regenwald-fond-persoenlicher-kommentar\/<\/a> &nbsp;<\/div><\/li><li><span>8<\/span><div>Climate Time 7:30 p.m., 21 November 2025 | Daily News \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>9<\/span><div> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube appearance \u201cKlimaZeit 7:30 p.m., 21 November 2025 | Tagesschau\u201c. Available online at  accessed on 23 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/LEWD6HWeSIk<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>10<\/span><div>COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | heute journal \u2013 the podcast \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>11<\/span><div> YouTube <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@ZDFheute\">ZDF Today News<\/a> Appearance\u201e<strong>COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | \u201eheute journal \u2013 the podcast\u201c<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> &nbsp;accessed on 23 November 2025. <em>Editorial use.<\/em> \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>12<\/span><div>COP30 \u2013 what did it achieve? | heute journal \u2013 the podcast \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/pjuDbT1tGfs<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>13<\/span><div>World Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me? | mitreden.ard.de \ud83c\udf10<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> <\/div><\/li><li><span>14<\/span><div> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tagesschau\">daily news<\/a> YouTube presence\u201e<strong>World Climate Conference \u2013 What does that have to do with me? | mitreden.ard.de<\/strong>\u201eAvailable online at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> &nbsp;Retrieved on 25 November 2025. Editorial use. \ud83c\udf10 <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/X8LhOSbEn5I<\/a> <\/div><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Die Stimmen von Expert*innen, Journalist*innen und Aktivist*innen &#8211; Die Profis haben das Wort (4. Teil) 6. Experteninterview: Martin Kaiser (Greenpeace) \u2013 \u201eWie lief die COP30?&#8220; Der Greenpeace-Chef Martin Kaiser gab ein ausf\u00fchrliches Interview zur COP30 und fasst die Lage pr\u00e4zise zusammen: Die Klimakonferenz war ein Minimalkompromiss, der die wesentlichen Probleme nicht l\u00f6st. Kaisers Kernaussagen: 7. Tagesthemen-Interview mit Maja G\u00f6pel (Transformationsforscherin) Maja G\u00f6pel ist eine f\u00fchrende Transformationsforscherin und wurde zur COP30 interviewt. Majas Einsch\u00e4tzung: G\u00f6pels Kernsatz: \u201eWir m\u00fcssen lokal denken, global handeln \u2013 nicht umgekehrt.&#8220; 8. 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